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Offline Marco S.

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #15 il: 07 Gen 2013, 15:32:18 »

Hello dearest Anne,

I received your kind e-mail today and, after replying, I checked Archeologi dell'Aria for an eventual thread - I then find this one. I am sorry not to be able to offer further and better information, anyway I remain at your disposal for whatever need or translation from Italian.
I think this is a real mistery and I hope we will be able to solve it.

Very kind regards and take care,


Marco
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Offline aestorm

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #16 il: 07 Gen 2013, 15:34:04 »
Fabio
Perhaps ?  But aircraft wrecks have been found .I think there are some in lakes and the sea in Italy
Anne

Offline Marco S.

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #17 il: 07 Gen 2013, 16:56:48 »

I am sure there are still many undiscovered wreckages in our sea!, while concerning lakes, I still have some doubts. I already heard many legends, especially on mountains, about that.
Marco  Una salus victis, nullam sperare salutem

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #18 il: 07 Gen 2013, 20:49:28 »
don't forget the unknown B-24 into the Selva del Lamone.

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #19 il: 07 Gen 2013, 23:03:56 »
Pipistrello
Can you tell me about the unknown B24 ?
Thanks
Anne

Offline kanister

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #20 il: 07 Gen 2013, 23:11:34 »
Please read this (sorry but is in Italian):

http://www.archeologidellaria.org/index.php?topic=1023.0

It's perhaps a B24 that crashed on June, 1944.
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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #21 il: 08 Gen 2013, 09:39:54 »
Pipistrello
Can you tell me about the unknown B24 ?
Thanks
Anne

Also to me, thanks...

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #22 il: 08 Gen 2013, 10:45:08 »
Where is a MACR of Liberator KH158?

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« Risposta #23 il: 08 Gen 2013, 10:47:53 »
MACR are only for US airships.
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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #24 il: 08 Gen 2013, 10:50:54 »
Fabio
Perhaps ?  But aircraft wrecks have been found .I think there are some in lakes and the sea in Italy
Anne

Dear Anne,
the problem is that we do not know where it crashed.
Which lake? What sea? It crashed in the mountains? in a forest?
To do a search, we need accurate information.
Is it bad for me to write so ...
I do not want to tell you is that yes, yes this is it. I do not want to treat delusions or false promises.

Archeologi dell'Aria will try in every way to help you.

a hug

Fabio

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #25 il: 08 Gen 2013, 12:55:40 »
Thank you all again !!
Anne

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #26 il: 08 Gen 2013, 13:07:00 »
Dear All
I wonder about this plane found in June 1944 near Bolsena ?

I can translate on google .It's not always accurate but near -so OK .

I think there are a WW2 German plane & a USAAF WW2 plane in Lake Bolsena + a more modern helicopter .
When Lake Bolsena was being searched for KH158 the underwater camera snagged on a helicopter --The search was in April 2006

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stormrhb/millar/lakebolsena.htm

Anne

Offline kanister

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #27 il: 08 Gen 2013, 14:00:48 »


I think there are .......... USAAF WW2 plane in Lake Bolsena ........


The plane in Lake Bolsena is a B17. Please see here  (always in Italian, sorry):

http://www.archeologidellaria.org/index.php?topic=608.0

If the plane of your relative crashed on Ligurian sea it's very difficult to find it: very close to coast it reaches the deep of 1000 metres and also 2000 off the coast.
And also if the B24 is a big target it's is not a "Titanic".
Sorry.
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Offline Marco S.

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #28 il: 11 Gen 2013, 21:31:13 »


I can't believe there are no historical sources able to indicate at least the area of the crash!

Dear Anne, I wish you all the best for this search.
Marco  Una salus victis, nullam sperare salutem

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Re: Lost 31 SAAF Liberator KH158 and 8 crew -SAAF ,RAF,RAAF 12/10/44
« Risposta #29 il: 11 Gen 2013, 22:09:34 »
Bisognerebbe controllare gli archivi dei comuni e delle parrocchie di tutta l'area.

Grazie Marco per la tua preziosa collaborazione anche con l'inglese.