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Offline sketch

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Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« il: 31 Ago 2011, 13:09:52 »
hello

looking for information about lanc W4251

it was missing presumed lost over the sea on the daylight raid to milan in oct 1942.

Lancaster W4251 took off from RAF Scampton at hours 1233 hours on 24tth October
1942 detailed to bomb Milan, Italy. Nothing was heard from the aircraft after take off and
it failed to return to base.
Crew:
RAF FO Miles, J T N Captain (Pilot)
RAAF 14065 Sgt G G Fraser, (Flight Engineer)
RCAF FO Hamilton, W C (Observer)
RAF Sgt J G Taylor, (Air Bomber)
RAF Sgt H B Smith, (Wireless Air Gunner)
RAF Sgt A F Heffernan, (Mid Upper Gunner)
RAF Sgt W J Wakelin, (Rear Gunner)
All the crew were killed and they are buried in the Ravenna War Cemetery, Italy.

the plane wasnt lost over the sea as the crew are buried in the cemetary, and i`m told that they were found sixteen years after the war.

does anyone know where the crash site was and why it took sixteen years find ??
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Offline mapo1955

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Re: Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« Risposta #1 il: 31 Ago 2011, 13:45:32 »
Hello,
as I've already written in Italian topic , the only Lanc shot down on 24 Oct 1942 was hit by flak and crashed in Segrate , east boundaries of Milan , not far from Linate airport . Really I don't think that crew bodies were recovered 16 years later ; I can only suppose they were buried in a 'common' cemetery , then 16 years later their remains moved to a war cemetery . I never heard aboou a such delayed recovery .
Greetings . 

micky.38

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Re: Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« Risposta #2 il: 31 Ago 2011, 14:07:36 »
Did you know if the CWGC have the reburial reports as the american ABMC?

Offline cmond

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Re: Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« Risposta #3 il: 31 Ago 2011, 16:31:11 »
Hi sketch,

the Lancaster was shot down by anti-aircraft fire from 1012 Battery DICAT (37 mm) and cannons of the Caproni aircraft factory. It crashed at Segrate, near Cascina dell’Ovo. 
The official picture enclosed, coming from Ufficio Storico dello Stato Maggiore dell’Esercito, show the Lancaster wreckage.

Source:
A. Rastelli, Bombe sulla città, Milano, Mursia, 2000


Carlo

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Re: Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« Risposta #4 il: 31 Ago 2011, 17:22:46 »
many thanks indeed for all your help, when i get chance i shall post a photo of the crew .

cheers

sketch

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Re: Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« Risposta #5 il: 31 Ago 2011, 17:26:21 »
interested to know also why the bodies were moved so far away from the crash site from milan to ravenna ?

Offline Marco S.

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Re: Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« Risposta #6 il: 01 Set 2011, 11:15:35 »


Hi Sketch and welcome onboard, even here in Italy!  :)
Marco  Una salus victis, nullam sperare salutem

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Re: Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« Risposta #7 il: 01 Set 2011, 12:16:27 »
had this info from sgt taylors relative

"My Mum said the letter she destroyed in temper at the loss of Gordon stated that villagers near where the plane crashed ( In the Alps so it said.) buried what was left of the lads in the village.  Officials found the remains all those years later and collected their tags and buried them in the nearest war cemetry which was Ravenna."


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Re: Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« Risposta #8 il: 06 Set 2011, 09:20:16 »
hi...
many thanks for all your help.

for the story and crew pictures of the crew.....

http://buckleyatwar.webs.com/soldiersstoriesww2.htm

micky.38

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Re: Lancaster W 4251 first daylight raid on milan
« Risposta #9 il: 06 Set 2011, 10:52:11 »
Thank you Sketch, wonderful pages!